tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849432465886946157.post5164691512888086754..comments2024-03-19T15:22:58.216-05:00Comments on Sears House Seeker: Gordon-Van Tine No. 535 in Webster Groves, MissouriSearsHouseSeekerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17794563811693538951noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849432465886946157.post-86124770160571362702015-12-30T20:04:25.556-06:002015-12-30T20:04:25.556-06:00Thanks so much for your kind words!
We have a Fa...Thanks so much for your kind words! <br /><br />We have a Facebook page called, "Sears Modern Homes" (there is another with a much longer name... that one is affiliated with the man you commented about above, as is the "Sears Homes" group on Facebook) -- we'd be happy to help you with your house -- note that it's a "Page", and not a "group", so you can just post your comment, and it will go to the side area of the page. The moderators will read and respond :) Do you know what model it is that you've bought? We've been working hard on documenting all of the homes we've found, and have a National Database of Sears Homes -- we may even have your house on the list! SearsHouseSeekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17794563811693538951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849432465886946157.post-61728557064894015552015-12-30T10:47:15.505-06:002015-12-30T10:47:15.505-06:00This is funny - a Sears House mafia trying to enfo...This is funny - a Sears House mafia trying to enforce some sort of "I posted first".<br />I came here because I just bought a Sears Craftsman home and am trying to learn about it. Whoever James Manser is I sincerely hope I never meet the man - what a loss to spend so much effort on reprimanding a blogger for such a great article.<br />I will continue to read this blog because it is informative, well written, well researched, and on a topic that interests. I hope you are not too burdened by the ridiculous few who do not add to the knowledge of the world but simply detract with complaints over articles they could never write.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849432465886946157.post-69952116996811796302015-08-27T11:47:09.759-05:002015-08-27T11:47:09.759-05:00So nice to hear from you! I really enjoyed our vis...So nice to hear from you! I really enjoyed our visit (and I'm sorry that you've had to witness this silliness about the house finding) -- you've made a beautiful home. I'm still working on linking the architect with either Gordon-Van Tine, or with the plan-book company that also had an exact likeness to this model (with the floor plan that you have, the #535... the later 535B may not have a copycat version). SearsHouseSeekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17794563811693538951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849432465886946157.post-767191148434260072015-08-27T08:46:05.712-05:002015-08-27T08:46:05.712-05:00As the homeowner of the house in question-I can te...As the homeowner of the house in question-I can tell you that I did not remove the 4th of July decorations until August 13th. I was having a party the day Judith took her picture on August 15th. My sister in law spoke to her and my daughter saw her taking the picture. On August 17th I googled our house to see what she may have posted (per Judith's conversation with my sister in law) and found her blog. I did not see any other blogs regarding my home on this date. That said, I have seen others taking pictures of our house over the 5 years we have owned it and always wondered why! Please enjoy your interesting hobby and leave the mean spirited competition alone-the house has been sitting at this location for 93 years. Thank you to the Gordon-Van Tine company for designing #535-We love it and its very comfortable and open floor plan! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849432465886946157.post-74983670199740049222015-08-26T06:43:06.535-05:002015-08-26T06:43:06.535-05:00Pretty cryptic. Want to elaborate?
By the way, ar...Pretty cryptic. Want to elaborate? <br />By the way, are you declaring that you are watching "Judy", or did you mean to use correct punctuation, and get my attention, as "Judy", to tell me that you are watching me? That would be written, "We're watching, Judy." Note the comma. Whew. <br /><br />Or... wait... I get it! This is a threat? Really? In public? You two really are nuts.SearsHouseSeekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17794563811693538951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849432465886946157.post-18876457106335913342015-08-26T06:29:46.618-05:002015-08-26T06:29:46.618-05:00We're watching JudyWe're watching JudyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849432465886946157.post-50727830713895578042015-08-22T12:48:25.112-05:002015-08-22T12:48:25.112-05:00James, you seem to have a strange vested interest....James, you seem to have a strange vested interest. <br /><br />Rose hasn't posted here, and since she is a supporter of kit house preservation, I'm sure she would be pleased that folks in Webster Groves might read Judith's post and learn about a historic house in their community.<br /><br />Why do you care so much, if you don't mind me asking?<br /><br />Sears Homes of Chicagolandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06852344154514348451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849432465886946157.post-19416663122355046092015-08-21T22:36:11.714-05:002015-08-21T22:36:11.714-05:00Dear heavens, Mr. Manser, give it a rest. You just...Dear heavens, Mr. Manser, give it a rest. You just don't get it. No one is suggesting that Rose Thornton's friend didn't find her that house earlier in the summer, now that she has blogged about the house and posted a 4th of July-era photo. But how on earth you think that I would have known about it, and its location, before I found it, is beyond me. <br /><br />The fact remains, for heavens sake, that I turned a corner last Saturday and found this house. Do you understand that plain English? If someone else found it before then, and shared it with you, well that is fine, but the existence of a GVT No. 535 at 207 Oakwood Avenue in Webster Groves was not shared with me, or in any way that would have allowed me to know of its existence there. Have you even looked closely at that photo of Rose's? It has a different house number on it. Even if Rose herself had sent me the photo and said she had found that house in Webster Groves, how on earth would I have known where it was?<br /><br />If it was posted or discussed in your group, I am not a member, and have the admins blocked, so I see neither hide nor hair of that group -- I don't even see the group listed anymore, so I wouldn't even know that it still exists, let alone would I see content from it. If Rose or the Oklahoma woman posted it on their FaceBook pages, I wouldn't have seen it, either, as I have them blocked, as well (you might ask yourself why people would block them, but some day, you'll understand). Have you ever known Rose Thornton to post an address with a house? Ever? So how on earth would I have known that this model house was at that location? The fact that Rose told the world, in her blog, that she and the Oklahoma woman had found some interesting houses in Webster Groves, is all that I could possibly have known, so, what are you suggesting? That every single house in Webster Groves can now be claimed by one of them, because some vague pronouncement was made about finding Webster Groves homes, and never telling what or where they are? I will continue to look for, and document, significant, historic homes that I find. If someone else finds the same house before me, they need to make that publicly known, and with an address. <br /><br />Again, this is not about competition, or playing games at collecting photos of houses before someone else. It's about documenting historic homes. That's all. That's the point. SearsHouseSeekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17794563811693538951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849432465886946157.post-36698612944185061822015-08-21T20:37:13.288-05:002015-08-21T20:37:13.288-05:00Not to mention that Rose's photo had all of th...Not to mention that Rose's photo had all of the July 4th decorations in it...Blogger Userhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02597412938346723890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849432465886946157.post-58417639701245337382015-08-21T20:27:16.788-05:002015-08-21T20:27:16.788-05:00If I'm not mistaken, the picture Rose took of ...If I'm not mistaken, the picture Rose took of the house was posted to Facebook on 7/29. Blogger Userhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02597412938346723890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849432465886946157.post-15920368297225457642015-08-21T20:14:23.921-05:002015-08-21T20:14:23.921-05:00Good point, Lara, and, yes, I have put this house ...Good point, Lara, and, yes, I have put this house on our Gordon-Van Tine list-- as the GVT #535.<br /><br />Thank you, too, Cindy, for your informative comment.SearsHouseSeekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17794563811693538951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849432465886946157.post-62920308540038558792015-08-21T19:48:10.925-05:002015-08-21T19:48:10.925-05:00James Manser, I find your comment strange. I, mys...James Manser, I find your comment strange. I, myself, am very familiar with Rose Thornton's manner of giving credit where it is due. There is much more to that story than you know. I think perhaps you are just one of her small band of followers who prefer to discredit other researchers of this subject instead of focusing on presenting this unique piece of our Architectural history in a positive manner. The more serious researchers of this subject there are, the better chance we have of educating the public and bringing new information to light. Cindy Catanzarohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751691338813486221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849432465886946157.post-18562503487275703632015-08-21T17:40:08.462-05:002015-08-21T17:40:08.462-05:00A public list of kit houses that have already been...A public list of kit houses that have already been discovered would end this duplication of resources and effort. Judith, did you add this house to the Gordon-Van Tine list?Sears Homes of Chicagolandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06852344154514348451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849432465886946157.post-79745856605706909312015-08-21T17:31:05.883-05:002015-08-21T17:31:05.883-05:00Mr. Manser, you have things confused. Rose Thornt...Mr. Manser, you have things confused. Rose Thornton's blog came out on August 20. I found this house and blogged about it on August 15, publishing it in the wee hours of August 16. <br /><br />I had no way whatsoever of knowing that this house, at this address, was one of the houses that the woman from Oklahoma had found for Rose Thornton to drive by in Webster Groves, and photograph for a later blog post. How could I? As Rose knows from the comment I left her on an earlier Webster Groves blog post, I was excited to know that more historic homes had been discovered in Webster Groves, and was anxious to see them (and, as I live in the area, I would also be interested in working toward actually authenticating them, as I have local access to building permits and mortgage records). I imagine there will be more homes brought to light (perhaps even some Sears models?), and I look forward to seeing them. As for this house, apparently two of us found it this summer, in a completely unrelated coincidence. <br /><br />It is really time for this odd and unnecessary competitiveness to cease. It is unprofessional and foolish. I was excited to find this house for the same reason others should be: to continue the documentation of these historic homes, and build a resource for future generations to reference. Other serious researchers with whom I work would never think to belittle or undermine the continued work toward this end. <br /><br />To that end, I will add that it is important to refer to models by the names they are given in the catalogs, and not by the convenient nickname a few friends came up with to refer to it in their private conversations. It is not accurate to refer to this model as "The Roberts" -- please see <a href="http://sears-house-seeker.blogspot.com/2015/07/gordon-van-tine-no-560-535-536-glencoe.html" rel="nofollow">my blog post of July 2, 2015</a> for clarification. <br /><br />SearsHouseSeekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17794563811693538951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849432465886946157.post-3654377917691312142015-08-21T06:31:48.882-05:002015-08-21T06:31:48.882-05:00How strange Rose Thornton does a blog on this very...How strange Rose Thornton does a blog on this very house and you "discover" it a few days later... Credit should be given to where it is due. Blogger Userhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02597412938346723890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849432465886946157.post-24196675428285901872015-08-16T09:41:41.891-05:002015-08-16T09:41:41.891-05:00It is lovely, Gosia! But, not all American houses ...It is lovely, Gosia! But, not all American houses are like these big beauties that I tend to blog about :) This is a very expensive home, in a beautiful neighborhood.SearsHouseSeekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17794563811693538951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849432465886946157.post-78781634670035351622015-08-16T03:21:52.198-05:002015-08-16T03:21:52.198-05:00What a lovely house which is located in perfect ar...What a lovely house which is located in perfect area. American houses are much more bigger and more comfortable I think.. Gosiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14604712540141917583noreply@blogger.com